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The Definitive Discussion: Top 5 Hip Hop Producers

By April 14, 2009Misc, Music, News

This gets harder and harder with each list…

With this installment, i’m going with the top 5 hip hop producers of all time. This was by far the most difficult list to date. I tried to stray away from simply listing favorites, and challenged myself to list the “best”. Here’s the criteria that i’m going by:

  • First and foremost, I’m considering the producer’s influence and legacy. Game changers. Legends. No fly-by-nighters.
  • Not including people who are producers in name, like Diddy. The producer has to have shown the technical ability to make music at some point in their career.

That’s it. I kept it pretty simple. And with that, here’s the list (in no particular order):

  1. Dr. Dre: Arguably the most influential hip hop producer ever. (And i’m usually the one arguing that.) Produced or co-produced some of the highest selling artists of all time – NWA, himself, Snoop, Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes. Think about how many records were sold from that list alone. You can’t deny his ability to make classic records with long lasting appeal. Some might debate whether or not he’s taking credit for other people’s production these days, but he’s still the man behind the boards. No different from Quincy Jones having session musicians.
  2. Jay Dee / J Dilla: I would have been crucified if his name wasn’t one of the first two mentioned. We’ve had countless debates about who was the greatest – Dilla or Dre – and the results weren’t always clear cut. I like to believe that I won the argument with Dre, but there’s a strong case with Dilla. The sheer volume of his body of work is unfathomable. He was already deep into the game before anybody knew who he was. If you factor in his influence on the latter half of ATCQ’s career, his work with Slum Village, the endless remixes and collabs, and the legendary beat tapes, you have a producer that touched nearly every corner of the hip hop community (as well as a few outside of hip hop). His production style has been duplicated by countless producers out there. Who gavethe clap / snare its distinct sound? Who put the shift in the sequence to bring the snare in a little early? Filtered synths and loops like no other? You already know.  There’s not much to say that you don’t know about already. Truly a legend.
  3. Pete Rock: For those of you that were around in the early 90s – remember when everybody had to have a “Pete Rock Remix”? Exactly. Name one weak project that Pete Rock produced. It’s okay, i’ll give you time… NONE.  As far as producers go, Pete Rock owned the “Golden Era”. He was Dilla before Dilla. The production on his own albums are still standards to this day, but he was equally as impressive with tracks for others.
  4. DJ Premier: I almost put him and Pete Rock neck in neck for the “Golden Era”. You had to have a Pete Rock Remix and a Premier Remix. Premier probably stepped outside of the east coast more than Pete did. He had signature drum sounds and a style all his own. “Step Into The Arena” and “Daily Operation” were two of the best produced hip hop albums ever, comparable with ATCQ’s 2nd and 3rd albums. And he’s a hell of a DJ. And he’s from TX. Stand up!
  5. This is where it got tricky. I couldn’t find a 5th without excluding someone else who could fit in its place. I polled a few people for their feedback, and here’s some of the answers that I got:
  • Marley Marl – HIGHLY influential in the earl days of hip hop. Changed the game as far as sampling goes.
  • Prince Paul – highly overlooked producer, was responsible for a lot of projects that people take for granted: De la, Stetsasonic, etc
  • The Bomb Squad – Public Enemy’s early work, helped launch Ice Cube’s solo career
  • De La Soul – a lot of people still don’t know that they do most of their production
  • Organized Noize / Earthtone III – Ever heard of the Dungeon Family? Produced Outkast, Goodie MoB, Witchdoctor, etc
  • Timbaland – don’t hate. He might be making the good Timberlake money now, but his sound is still rooted in hip hop
  • Kanye – ego aside, he is / was a damn good producer. I wouldn’t put him in the top 5, but his name is worth mentioning.
  • Manny Fresh – did a lot of popular music for the No Limit camp when they were putting out an album a week
  • Pimp C – a much, much better producer than anyone outside of Texas gave him credit for. Put straight up soul and funk on anything he produced. Look at his discography and prove me wrong.
  • Q-Tip – his work on the early Tribe projects (if it’s true) is classic. His tracks for Nas, Mobb Deep, and a lot of other people went HARD.

Who did I leave off the list? Who’s worthy of that 5th spot? Did I get it all completely wrong? Discuss below.

Damien

Founding member of K-OTIX / The Legendary KO. Unheralded jack of all trades. Spends most of his time these days creating moving pictures and writing some of the best material he's ever written. Likes dogs. Cats - meh.

75 Comments

  • d25 says:

    I agree with your list, no. 5 should go to either Q-Tip or Large Professor

    nuff repect to Da Beatminerz, ?uestlove, Sean J. Period, Just Blaze, E-Swift, Hi-Tek & DJ Khaliyl (Self Scientific)

    top 5 to be soon in top ten:

    illmind
    khrysis
    black milk
    madlib
    the are

  • d25 says:

    Not in top 5 but not to be forgotten:

    Sir Jinx produced some heard ish for Kill At Will & Death Certificate for Cube…

    Kutmasta Kurt was th best Premier imitator

    Ayatollah had some nice joints

    4th Disciple did good joints on Wu Forever, even DJ Allah Mathematics

    and last but not the least Skeff Anslem

  • CENZI says:

    people need to stop putting Dilla up on the top5.

    he didn’t reshape the hiphop world, nor make the biggest hits.

    I will also remind y’all that Tribe fell off when he joined the group……

    not hating, just stating the facts.

  • king says:

    Man, I feel like there is a lot of good stuff being said in this discussion! very Dope stuff! @ Severe your take was very good, i felt what you said for real but, just because someone did it first doesn’t make them better. Dr J did what MJ did a long time ago but Jordan was the better player by far. Longevity is very important in this discussion its a lot of dope producers for a small two to for year time period, only the true greats can make it when the music changes and the years go by, like a Premo.

  • Hassan Olu says:

    Okay , maybe I was leaning to much on the foundation when I mentioned Paul C, but all I’m asking is that cats do their homework when it comes to discussions like this. I’ve been looking at some list that have dudes on them that sure haven’t paid their dues. It’s getting a lil’ juvenile when you have producers who have only surfaced over the past few years being stamped onto the top 5, not to hate at all, but those stripes and titles have to be earned, not overnight. But I think we should break it down even further into categories of greatness due to the fact that some many carve their own legends and greatness in their own unique ways. Some changed the entire direction of hip-hop. some influenced everybody that came after them, some were known for their drums, some for their impecable chopping ability, and others for their mixing and sound quality prowess. Either way, there’s always going to be some geek out there who isn’t satisfied with this list of magnificent MUSIC contributors regardless of how ill they all were, and in that case you simply say: tough sh*@!

  • Hassan Olu says:

    CENZI: people need to stop putting Dilla up on the top5.

    he didn’t reshape the hiphop world, nor make the biggest hits.

    I will also remind y’all that Tribe fell off when he joined the group……

    not hating, just stating the facts.

    MAN, I TRIED TO HOLD MY MULE BUT I CAN’T BECAUSE OF WHAT DILLA REPRESENTS TO THE ENTIRE SOUL AND HIP-HOP COMMUNITY. PLEASE BROTHER; DON’T BE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO NOT HAVE AN EAR OR OF NOT DOING YOUR HOMEWORK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS REALM. SURE, YOU’RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION, BUT REALIZE YOU’RE INVOLVED IN A DISCUSSION THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF DILLA’S MUSICAL OFF-SPRING. YOU MAY NOT KNOW US BY NAME, BUT OUT OF RESPECT, DO US THE COURTESY OF STUDYING THE MASTER TEACHER BEFORE YOU TRY AND COMPREHEND SOMETHING ONLY ONE OF HIS STUDENTS COULD. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS. SALAAM.

  • Hassan Olu says:

    SHOUTS OUT TO DAMIEN AND NIYAT: IT’S I.V.

  • FWMJ says:

    CENZI: actually, if you paid attention at all, any of the good songs on the last two albums for tribe, dilla did. 2ndly, tribe fell apart/off because of their own issues with each other. dilla kept them together for the rest of the time if anything.

  • d25 says:

    Dilla is top 5 even without working with Hova, Nas, Biggie, Snoop, 2pac in the sense that Dr. Dre or Preem did, but man he made really good and consistent music period!

  • darkass donut says:

    sam sever

  • TheCaoth says:

    Some of the best producers: Pete Rock, Illmind, 9th Wonder, DJ Premier, J Dilla, Hi-Tek, The Alchemist, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Memo, S-1, Khrysis and Kev Brown. The ones I haven’t mentioned either make too radio friendly music, not good enough beats or I haven’t heard enough material from them.

  • SPACE CITY says:

    How about a list of top 5 producers who dont sample ( other artists previous works ) ?

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