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The Definitive Discussion: Top 5 Hip Hop Producers

By April 14, 2009Misc, Music, News

This gets harder and harder with each list…

With this installment, i’m going with the top 5 hip hop producers of all time. This was by far the most difficult list to date. I tried to stray away from simply listing favorites, and challenged myself to list the “best”. Here’s the criteria that i’m going by:

  • First and foremost, I’m considering the producer’s influence and legacy. Game changers. Legends. No fly-by-nighters.
  • Not including people who are producers in name, like Diddy. The producer has to have shown the technical ability to make music at some point in their career.

That’s it. I kept it pretty simple. And with that, here’s the list (in no particular order):

  1. Dr. Dre: Arguably the most influential hip hop producer ever. (And i’m usually the one arguing that.) Produced or co-produced some of the highest selling artists of all time – NWA, himself, Snoop, Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes. Think about how many records were sold from that list alone. You can’t deny his ability to make classic records with long lasting appeal. Some might debate whether or not he’s taking credit for other people’s production these days, but he’s still the man behind the boards. No different from Quincy Jones having session musicians.
  2. Jay Dee / J Dilla: I would have been crucified if his name wasn’t one of the first two mentioned. We’ve had countless debates about who was the greatest – Dilla or Dre – and the results weren’t always clear cut. I like to believe that I won the argument with Dre, but there’s a strong case with Dilla. The sheer volume of his body of work is unfathomable. He was already deep into the game before anybody knew who he was. If you factor in his influence on the latter half of ATCQ’s career, his work with Slum Village, the endless remixes and collabs, and the legendary beat tapes, you have a producer that touched nearly every corner of the hip hop community (as well as a few outside of hip hop). His production style has been duplicated by countless producers out there. Who gavethe clap / snare its distinct sound? Who put the shift in the sequence to bring the snare in a little early? Filtered synths and loops like no other? You already know.  There’s not much to say that you don’t know about already. Truly a legend.
  3. Pete Rock: For those of you that were around in the early 90s – remember when everybody had to have a “Pete Rock Remix”? Exactly. Name one weak project that Pete Rock produced. It’s okay, i’ll give you time… NONE.  As far as producers go, Pete Rock owned the “Golden Era”. He was Dilla before Dilla. The production on his own albums are still standards to this day, but he was equally as impressive with tracks for others.
  4. DJ Premier: I almost put him and Pete Rock neck in neck for the “Golden Era”. You had to have a Pete Rock Remix and a Premier Remix. Premier probably stepped outside of the east coast more than Pete did. He had signature drum sounds and a style all his own. “Step Into The Arena” and “Daily Operation” were two of the best produced hip hop albums ever, comparable with ATCQ’s 2nd and 3rd albums. And he’s a hell of a DJ. And he’s from TX. Stand up!
  5. This is where it got tricky. I couldn’t find a 5th without excluding someone else who could fit in its place. I polled a few people for their feedback, and here’s some of the answers that I got:
  • Marley Marl – HIGHLY influential in the earl days of hip hop. Changed the game as far as sampling goes.
  • Prince Paul – highly overlooked producer, was responsible for a lot of projects that people take for granted: De la, Stetsasonic, etc
  • The Bomb Squad – Public Enemy’s early work, helped launch Ice Cube’s solo career
  • De La Soul – a lot of people still don’t know that they do most of their production
  • Organized Noize / Earthtone III – Ever heard of the Dungeon Family? Produced Outkast, Goodie MoB, Witchdoctor, etc
  • Timbaland – don’t hate. He might be making the good Timberlake money now, but his sound is still rooted in hip hop
  • Kanye – ego aside, he is / was a damn good producer. I wouldn’t put him in the top 5, but his name is worth mentioning.
  • Manny Fresh – did a lot of popular music for the No Limit camp when they were putting out an album a week
  • Pimp C – a much, much better producer than anyone outside of Texas gave him credit for. Put straight up soul and funk on anything he produced. Look at his discography and prove me wrong.
  • Q-Tip – his work on the early Tribe projects (if it’s true) is classic. His tracks for Nas, Mobb Deep, and a lot of other people went HARD.

Who did I leave off the list? Who’s worthy of that 5th spot? Did I get it all completely wrong? Discuss below.

Damien

Founding member of K-OTIX / The Legendary KO. Unheralded jack of all trades. Spends most of his time these days creating moving pictures and writing some of the best material he's ever written. Likes dogs. Cats - meh.

75 Comments

  • savv says:

    can’t get enuff of your discussion lists. it pains me that the top 5 emcees discussion thread cuts off on me right as you’re going in. does this happen for anyone else?

  • slopfunkdust says:

    The Bomb Squad, is hands down on my top producers of all time.

    you forgot about ced gee from ultramagnetic. transmitting live from mars is STILL my shit…

    and you’re really slipping by not having The Beatnuts on that list…
    intoxicated deamons / street level son…
    THATS hiphop…
    these lil’ whipper snappers today need to study their history.

  • slopfunkdust says:

    you also forgot the beat minerz and diamond d…
    and showbiz + ag…
    and eazy mo be…

    now i really sound like one of them old niggas…
    thinking “WTF happend to our culture / music?!?!?!”

  • Dj ILL One says:

    There are too many to really name. This discussion could go on and on by time,style,accomplishments,etc. Just too many. I applaud you for even trying to put a top 5 out there,I couldn`t.

  • Classic says:

    man…..making a top 5 list is not that easy. LOL!

    Spinna is in my personal top 5

  • Damien says:

    Sav – a couple of people have told me that also, but I have no idea why it does that. You need me to email the full post to you?

    Slop – I knew I missed a few, and you pretty much pulled them all out. What about Doug infinite / No ID?

    E Class – Spinna is a genius, and very underrated.

    Nobody vouched for Madlib yet?

  • Tiago Rump says:

    Madlib, definetely. And Rza too.

  • be-RYAN says:

    forgot Rick Rubin. how come?

  • WanderlustP says:

    Hmm…I can dig it. Dilla’s music has always resonated with me more though. Dilla hands down.

    No Madlib? 9th or Black Milk?

  • Damien says:

    Now for everyone making additional suggestions – keep in mind that we’re talking Top 5. All of these are good producers, but top 5?

  • Classic says:

    black milk and 9th are super dope…
    but need to pay more dues in to earn a top 5 IMO.

  • dirkflowinski says:

    What about Just Blaze? He wouldn’t be in my top 5 but he’s worth mentioning. I guess Swizz Beats would fall under that list too. Swizz changed the game a little with all the Ruff Ryders stuff, etc…wasn’t my favorite by any means, but i respect his efforts.

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